LA Times Crossword 5 Aug 23, Saturday

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Constructed by: Kyle Dolan & Dylan Schiff
Edited by: Patti Varol

Today’s Theme: None

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… a complete list of answers

Bill’s time: 11m 32s

Bill’s errors: 0

Today’s Wiki-est Amazonian Googlies

Across

1 Next-level experience? : BOSS FIGHT

In the world of video gaming, a significantly strong computer-controlled opponent is referred to as a boss. A fight against a boss is a boss battle or boss fight.

10 “The Hobbit” figure : DWARF

“The Hobbit, or There and Back Again” is a children’s fantasy novel by J. R. R. Tolkien that was popular from the time of its first publication in 1937. Included in the early awards for “The Hobbit” was a prize for best juvenile fiction from “The New York Herald Tribune”. Tolkien adapted his succeeding novel “The Lord of the Rings” to incorporate elements in “The Hobbit”, so that the two tales are very much related.

18 Emma Roberts, to Julia Roberts : NIECE

Actress Emma Roberts is perhaps best known to TV audiences for multiple roles she has played in the show “American Horror Story”. Emma is the daughter of actor Eric Roberts, brother of actress Julia Roberts.

20 London institution with a Los Angeles namesake, familiarly : THE TIMES

“The Times” of London was the first newspaper to bear the “Times” name. The venerable publication was founded in 1785 as “The Daily Universal Register”, and became “The Times” in 1788.

The “Los Angeles Times” newspaper started out life in 1881 as the “Los Angeles Daily Times”. The paper has a turbulent history, especially in the early 1900s when management and unions were at loggerheads. In 1910, two union members bombed the “Los Angeles Times” building causing a fire that killed 21 newspaper employees.

24 Chichi : POSH

No one really knows the etymology of the word “posh”. The popular myth that “posh” is actually an acronym standing for “port out, starboard home” is completely untrue, and is a story that can actually be traced back to the 1968 movie “Chitty Chitty Bang Bang”. The myth is that wealthy British passengers traveling to and from India would book cabins on the port side for the outward journey and the starboard side for the home journey. This trick was supposedly designed to keep their cabins out of the direct sunlight.

Someone or something described as chichi is showily trendy and pretentious. “Chichi” is a French noun meaning “airs, fuss”.

25 High wind : PICCOLO

The piccolo is a woodwind instrument that looks like a small flute. Piccolos play one octave higher than flutes, and so the instrument is known by Italian musicians as an “ottavino”, Italian for “little octave”. “Piccolo” is Italian for “small”.

29 Hides : SKINS

Both the verb “to hide” (to conceal) and the noun “hide” (skin), derive from the Old English “hyd” meaning “hide, skin”. The idea is that to “hide” something is similar to covering it with a “skin”.

31 Technical drawing : SCHEMATIC

A schema is an outline or a model. The plural of “schema” is “schemata” and the adjectival form is “schematic”.

34 Boddingtons, e.g. : ALE

Boddingtons is a very tasty bitter ale that originated in Manchester, England. It became quite popular here in the US when it was introduced in cans containing a “widget”, which gave the beer a creamy mouth feel.

45 Like many of Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s jabots : LACY

A jabot is a very ornate clothing accessory worn around the neck. Jabots were often made from lace, and were originally worn by upper class males around the mid-1600s, with women adopting the style in the late 1800s. Jabots are still worn today in some official costumes. For example, some of our female Supreme Court justices might be seen wearing jabots.

Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (RBG) served on the US Supreme Court. Justice Ginsburg was the second woman to join the Court, and was nominated by President Bill Clinton. She was diagnosed with colon cancer in 1999 and underwent surgery, chemotherapy and radiation therapy. During that time she did not miss one day on the bench. In 2009 Justice Ginsburg had surgery for pancreatic cancer, and was back to work 12 days later. She had left-lung lobectomy to remove cancerous nodules in 2018, which forced Justice Ginsburg to miss oral argument in January 2019, for the first time since joining the court 25 years earlier. She finally succumbed to pancreatic cancer in 2020. Much of Ginsburg’s life is recounted in the excellent 2018 movie “On the Basis of Sex”.

50 Onetime carrier based in Cairo : AIR SINAI

Air Sinai was a Cairo-based airline owned by Egyptair. It was set up in 1982 to provide flights between Egypt and Israel, which was a requirement of the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty. The name “Air Sinai” was chosen as “Egyptair” was considered too controversial for flights into Israel at the time. Egyptair planes started regular service using its own planes in 2021, and Air Sinai ceased to exist.

52 “The Crown” role, familiarly : LADY DI

Just after Diana, Princess of Wales died in a car accident, then Prime Minister Tony Blair addressed the nation. In so doing, he described her as “the People’s Princess”. That description resonated with many, and is still used today when referring to “Lady Di”.

“The Crown” is a historical drama produced for Netflix that covers the life of British Queen Elizabeth II from her marriage to Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. For the first two seasons, Elizabeth is played by Claire Foy and Philip by Matt Smith. For the next two seasons, Olivia Colman and Tobias Menzies take over as Elizabeth and Philip. The show finishes up with Imelda Staunton and Jonathan Pryce in the roles.

55 Short-tailed weasel : STOAT

The stoat has dark brown fur in the summer, and white fur in the winter. Sometimes the term “ermine” is used for the animal during the winter when the fur is white. Ermine skins have long been prized by royalty and are often used for white trim on ceremonial robes.

56 Taboo gathering? : GAME NIGHT

Taboo is a guessing game that was introduced by Parker Brothers in 1989. Players must encourage their teammates to guess a word on a card, without using that word or related words defined on the card. It’s a fun game that’s played regularly around here …

58 Flip side? : TAILS

The two sides of a coin are known as the “obverse” and the “reverse”. The obverse is commonly referred to as “heads”, as it often depicts someone’s head. The reverse is commonly called “tails”, as it is the opposite of “heads”.

60 Diamond Jubilee number : SIXTY

A diamond jubilee is the 60th anniversary of a significant event.

61 Beach club? : SAND WEDGE

A sand wedge is a club used to get out of the sand in a game of golf.

Down

1 Chess pieces known as elephants in Russia : BISHOPS

In the game of chess, the piece known in English as the “bishop” can have other names when translated from other languages. For example:

  1. Elephant: Chinese and Russian
  2. Jester: French
  3. Runner: German
  4. Camel: Hindi
  5. Standard-bearer: Italian

3 Elaine who had a recurring role as Jack’s mother on “30 Rock” : STRITCH

Elaine Stritch was an actress and singer who had a very successful career, particularly on Broadway. She was nominated for a Tony Award five times, with the first nomination coming for her performance in the 1955 production of “Bus Stop”. Stritch eventually won a Tony in 2002, for her one-woman show “Elaine Stritch at Liberty”. She lived and worked in London for a long time. I remember her as a lead in a Britcom titled “Two’s Company”, which was successful in Britain and Ireland and was remade (without much success) in the US as “The Two of Us”.

4 First word of Tom Petty’s “Free Fallin'” : SHE’S

“Free Fallin’” is a 1989 song recorded by Tom Petty. It was the first track that Petty completed for his debut album “Full Moon Fever”, and was to become his most successful and best-known song.

5 Potential Guinness entry, say : FEAT

“The Guinness Book of World Records” holds some records of its own. It is the best-selling, copyrighted series of books of all time and is one of the books most often stolen from public libraries! The book was first published in 1954 by two twins, Norris and Ross McWhirter. The McWhirter twins found themselves with a smash hit, and eventually became very famous in Britain hosting a TV show based on world records.

6 Perfect Portions brand : IAMS

Iams dog food was introduced by animal nutritionist Paul Iams. He felt that household pets were suffering somewhat by being fed a diet of table scraps, so he developed dry dog food that he felt was more nutritious and suitable for pet dogs. He founded the Iams company, now part of Procter & Gamble, in 1946.

7 Test with a max verbal reasoning score of 170 : GRE

Passing the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) is usually a requirement for entry into graduate school here in the US.

8 Enterprise rival : HERTZ

The Hertz car rental company was started in 1918 by Walter L. Jacobs in Chicago. He began with just twelve model T Ford cars available for rent. In 1923, the car rental operation was bought out by John D. Hertz who incorporated it into his truck and coach manufacturing company.

Enterprise Rent-A-Car was established in 1957 by Jack. C. Taylor in St. Louis, Missouri, where the company is still headquartered today. The company was originally called Executive Leasing Company. The name was changed in 1962 in honor of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, on which Taylor served during WWII.

9 Smith of TV’s “Empire” : TASHA

Actress Tasha Smith’s break came with a starring role in the nineties sitcom “Boston Common”, playing Tasha King. More recently, she landed a recurring role in the show “Empire”, playing Carol Holloway.

11 O’Hare and Bush, for two : WWII PILOTS

Lieutenant Commander Edward “Butch” O’Hare was the US Navy’s first flying ace and a Medal of Honor recipient in WWII. He received that medal for intercepting single-handedly nine heavy bombers that were approaching his aircraft carrier. He had limited ammunition at the time, but used what was left to shoot down five bombers and damage a sixth. The following year, in 1943, his aircraft was shot down while he led the first ever nighttime fighter attack from a carrier. His body was never found. The USS O’Hare destroyer was named in his honor, as was Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport.

President George H. W. Bush served in the US Navy during WWII. Future President Bush postponed his entry into college after the attack on Pearl Harbor and enlisted in the navy instead. When he earned his wings, he was the youngest aviator in the US Navy at that time.

12 Sea __ : ANEMONE

The name “anemone” means “daughter of the wind” in Greek, and at one time it was believed that the wind was what actually caused the flower to bloom. The sea anemone is named for the terrestrial plant even though the sea anemone isn’t a plant at all. The sea anemone is a predatory animal found on the ocean floor.

23 __ du Rhône : COTES

Côtes du Rhône is a wine region centered on the Rhône river in France. The name of the region translates as “Slopes (or Hills) of Rhône”. The most prevalent grapes used in Côtes du Rhône wine are grenache (in reds and rosés) and grenache blanc (in whites).

26 Seasoning on a Chicago-style hot dog : CELERY SALT

A Chicago-style hot dog consists of an all-beef frankfurter on a poppy seed bun. The sausage is topped with yellow mustard, dark green relish, chopped raw onion, pickle spear, sport peppers, tomato slices and a dash of celery salt.

28 Heathrow facilities : LAV

London’s Heathrow handles more international passengers than any other airport in the world, and is the third busiest airport around the globe in terms of passenger traffic (after Atlanta and Beijing).

30 Japanese cutlet : KATSU

“Katsuretsu” (also just “katsu”) is a dish from Japanese cuisine that resembles a Wiener schnitzel from Viennese cuisine. Katsu is a breaded meat cutlet.

33 “The Flight Attendant” star : CUOCO

Kaley Cuoco is an actress from Camarillo, California who is best known for playing Penny, the female lead on the sitcom “The Big Bang Theory”. Cuoco’s love interest in the show is played by Johnny Galecki, and the two were romantically involved in real life for a couple of years. Cuoco also got a lot of exposure playing William Shatner’s daughter on priceline.com ads, and playing a genie in Toyota RAV4 commercials.

“The Flight Attendant” is a comedy-drama TV show that is based on a 2018 novel of the same name by Chris Bohjalian. It stars Kaley Cuoco in the title role. Cuoco’s own production company (Yes, Norman Productions) had optioned the rights to the novel in 2017. The show is described as a mystery-thriller as well as a comedy-drama. It’s on my list to watch …

37 Brand with a Pamplemousse flavor : LA CROIX

La Croix is a sparkling water brand that comes from La Crosse, Wisconsin, hence the name.

“Pamplemousse” is French for “grapefruit”.

42 Cocktail flavored with orgeat syrup : MAI TAI

The mai tai cocktail is strongly associated with the Polynesian islands, but the drink was supposedly invented in 1944 in Trader Vic’s restaurant in Oakland, California. One recipe is 6 parts white rum, 3 parts orange curaçao, 3 parts orgeat syrup, 1 part rock candy syrup, 2 parts fresh lime juice, all mixed with ice and then a float added of 6 parts dark rum. “Maita’i” is the Tahitian word for “good”.

Orgeat is an almond-flavored syrup, and an essential ingredient in a classic mai tai cocktail. Although today’s orgeat is made from almonds, the original recipe called for a blend of almonds and barley. The name “orgeat” comes from Latin via the French “orge” meaning “barley”.

43 “Always and Forever, Lara Jean” novelist Jenny : HAN

Author Jenny Han wrote a trilogy of young adult romance novels based on her own habit of writing love letters as a teenager to boys on whom she had a crush. Known as the To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before” series, the trilogy comprises:

  1. “To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before” (2014)
  2. “P.S. I Still Love You” (2015)
  3. “Always and Forever, Lara Jean” (2017)

48 Pageant prize : TIARA

The oldest beauty pageant still operating in the US is the Miss America contest. The Miss America beauty pageant started out as a marketing ploy in the early twenties to attract tourists to the Atlantic City boardwalk after Labor Day. Today, contestants must be between 17 and 24 years of age. Before those limits were introduced, Marian Bergeron won the 1933 title at only 15 years of age.

54 Boggle pieces : DICE

Boggle is a word game in which one uses 16 lettered dice in a 4×4 tray to find words. There was even a “Boggle” game show that ran on the Family Channel for a few months in 1994.

57 All U.S. vice presidents until 2021 : MEN

Kamala Harris was a US Senator for California starting in 2017, after serving for six years as the Attorney General of California. In early 2019, Harris announced her run for the Democratic nomination for US president in the 2020 election. Although she dropped out of the race, she was chosen by eventual nominee Joe Biden as his vice-presidential running mate. When the Biden-Harris ticket won the election, Harris became the first female US vice president, and the highest-ranking female politician in the history of the nation.

Complete List of Clues/Answers

Across

1 Next-level experience? : BOSS FIGHT
10 “The Hobbit” figure : DWARF
15 Around : IN THE AREA
16 Registration info : OWNER
17 Strips at a party : STREAMERS
18 Emma Roberts, to Julia Roberts : NIECE
19 Raises : HOISTS
20 London institution with a Los Angeles namesake, familiarly : THE TIMES
22 Drop (out) : OPT
23 Industry titan : CZAR
24 Chichi : POSH
25 High wind : PICCOLO
29 Hides : SKINS
31 Technical drawing : SCHEMATIC
34 Boddingtons, e.g. : ALE
35 Doesn’t surprise, in a way : LIVES UP TO
37 Allow : LET
38 Place where stuff sells left and right : SHOE STORE
42 Coastal habitat : MARSH
44 Carry a torch for : CRUSH ON
45 Like many of Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s jabots : LACY
46 “Now, about … ” : AS TO …
49 Yoga roll : MAT
50 Onetime carrier based in Cairo : AIR SINAI
52 “The Crown” role, familiarly : LADY DI
55 Short-tailed weasel : STOAT
56 Taboo gathering? : GAME NIGHT
58 Flip side? : TAILS
59 “All good?” : ARE WE COOL?
60 Diamond Jubilee number : SIXTY
61 Beach club? : SAND WEDGE

Down

1 Chess pieces known as elephants in Russia : BISHOPS
2 Focused : ON TOPIC
3 Elaine who had a recurring role as Jack’s mother on “30 Rock” : STRITCH
4 First word of Tom Petty’s “Free Fallin'” : SHE’S
5 Potential Guinness entry, say : FEAT
6 Perfect Portions brand : IAMS
7 Test with a max verbal reasoning score of 170 : GRE
8 Enterprise rival : HERTZ
9 Smith of TV’s “Empire” : TASHA
10 “That’s a bad idea” : DON’T
11 O’Hare and Bush, for two : WWII PILOTS
12 Sea __ : ANEMONE
13 Nook : RECESS
14 Straight from the garden : FRESH
21 Unsure sounds : ERS
23 __ du Rhône : COTES
26 Seasoning on a Chicago-style hot dog : CELERY SALT
27 Forgets, maybe : OMITS
28 Heathrow facilities : LAV
30 Japanese cutlet : KATSU
32 “Roughly” : ISH
33 “The Flight Attendant” star : CUOCO
36 What “p” may stand for : PER
37 Brand with a Pamplemousse flavor : LA CROIX
39 “What?!” : OH MY GOD!
40 One who crosses the line? : ROAD HOG
41 Warrant : ENTITLE
42 Cocktail flavored with orgeat syrup : MAI TAI
43 “Always and Forever, Lara Jean” novelist Jenny : HAN
45 Holds up : LASTS
47 Long-term investment accounts? : SAGAS
48 Pageant prize : TIARA
51 Minute : ITSY
52 Blue : LEWD
53 Again : ANEW
54 Boggle pieces : DICE
57 All U.S. vice presidents until 2021 : MEN

28 thoughts on “LA Times Crossword 5 Aug 23, Saturday”

  1. I can say one of the reasons I quit posting regularly here is so much of the LA Times crossword has started blowing up (not in a good way), it’s hard for me to not comment every day to that effect. But for one that never really has a huge problem with “solving” (quotes because in reality it’s guessing my way through on a large part of this) most of these grids past a few guess-induced Naticks, I’ll say that they’re “ridiculous and idiotic”, along with a few other choice words that also happened to be used yesterday and then some.

    Course all of the outlets are the same way on average these days (i.e. produce at least one or more outrages a week), as I definitely have noticed what I predicted about three years ago is coming to pass. I know I’m getting fed up with the poor quality (on average, not just Varol), the same as some others posted yesterday.

    I’ve shared a lot of the reasoning behind it in the long past (to scorn and hate) and most yesterday picked up on what I pick up on these things, but realized back then nothing’s going to change unless some of these people start losing money as they don’t listen to their “solving public” so to speak. As was said by a commenter yesterday: “It’s not about YOU, it’s about the enjoyment and satisfaction of your readers.” It definitely seems they only listen to their cronies, instead of more casual solvers.

    Course if you look at the market though, the LA Times pays bupkis compared to about everybody else for puzzles, so it seems mostly natural that constructors just resubmit here when they get rejected elsewhere rather than actually fix their grids. This definitely puts effort on Varol to actively edit them instead of rubber stamp them.

    That said, today’s definitely smells like a Will Shortz reject to me, and I definitely see good reasons why I’d think that way. I won’t say any more of what I saw in this one though. But yeah I’m definitely getting my popcorn ready for this one and what people will say.

  2. I let my 1 hour solve time fall by the wayside. Took me 1 hour and 20 minutes.

    I actually kept thinking this isn’t that hard is it? I felt like It was all on the tip of my tongue…. and time flew by as I pecked away. Words emerged and in some cases partial words for a long time.

    As I look back, the answers make sense. But how I got there from the clue, I’m not sure.

  3. Took an hour with no errors. Agree with Pat that the clues were generally remote and vague. Also agree with Anon Mike in that I often didn’t know how I ended up being right. Crosses and guesses (along with age and experience) got me through this one.

  4. The grid, when completed, looks mostly fine: (boss fight is an exception) but the clues are downright offensive. Overly cute and/or obscure. I feel annoyed, not satisfied.

  5. Another in a long line of DNF’s
    Puzzles are becoming less and less fun with 2 setter egos springing up two out of three days.
    Nuff said👎👎
    Stay safe😀

  6. I don’t know what the fuss is about. I expect a Saturday puzzle to be more obtuse and take longer, and this took me 24 minutes but never felt out of reach.

  7. Would you believe 2D thru 9D, 7 IN A ROW, are PPP’s? What a wonderful start to a puzzle.

    C’mon …

    Saw that and punted. Judging from other comments looks like it was a good idea …

  8. I completely bombed out on the NW corner. Because I am and never have been into video games Boss Fight kept me from getting the down clues. I should have filled in “bishops” without a problem if only I had quit looking at 1 Across and trying to noodle out what in the heck that was. D’oh! The rest of the grid was properly filled in, but that is scant relief for having a big, blank corner sticking its proverbial tongue out at me and then making razzberry noises at me. On to the WSJ.

  9. Figures they would follow up an unsolvable, dual-authored mess with yet another one.

    Starting with BOSSFIGHT: that just isn’t a word. Sorry, it’s NOT.
    I ended up almost completely refilling the top left, while trying to make headway in other parts of the grid in the meantime. “Can’t get there from here” was the theme, as any other clue was as useless or any other fill was as arcane, slangy and specialized as the next.

    I’m just gonna say it: we need another new editor. This one is just not doing the most basic element of her job: supplying us with decent, SOLVABLE grids.

  10. No look ups, no errors….somehow. Took me
    forever though with tons of ink overs! I
    thought I was having an off day until I got
    to the comments. This blog really is a
    wonderful resource! Thanks again Bill.
    Fingers crossed for Sunday….

  11. This really was unsolvable, especially in the southeast. And, “Bossfight”?….really?

  12. 27:07, no errors. Difficult, but doable. I’d never heard the term BOSS FIGHT, but I ultimately guessed it, and it does sound like a term a young gamer might come up with. A lot of the cluing gave evidence that the constructor’s background is rather different from mine, but it’s always interesting to me to be exposed to language from outside my own narrow world.

    When I manage to solve puzzles like yesterday’s and today’s, it’s gratifying. If, as sometimes happens, I fail to get some part of such a puzzle right, that’s okay: my ego can withstand an occasional blow.

    1. Dave, always the voice of reason. I, like you, like to “be exposed to language from outside my own narrow world.” Thank you for expressing it so well.

  13. Quite a slog today! 53:05 – 3 lookups for “pamplemousse,” “Empire” cast, and “____ du Rhone.” Took 15-20 minutes to get a foothold anywhere. The SE and NE corners first fell into place, but the left side wouldn’t fully cooperate until I did the lookups.

    False starts: CASTLES>BISHOPS, ONPOINT>ONTOPIC, SAT>GRE, ALAMO>HERTZ, TROLL>DWARF, ALCOVE>RECESS, LOCAL>FRESH. So, initially, the top part was a mess. LOO>LAV, TINY>ITSY, COATI>STOAT, FIFTY>SIXTY, HES>MEN, DOWN>LEWD.

    New or forgotten: “Boddingtons,” “jabot,” AIRSINAI, Elaine STRITCH, “Perfect Portions,” TASHA Smith, COTES du Rhone, KATSU, “pamplemousse,” “orgeat syrup,” Jenny HAN.

    Looking at pictures of STOATS, I’d say their tail length is not much different from a weasel’s.

    With so much that was unclear to me, trial-and-error answers, and new items, it’s a wonder that I had only 3 lookups.

    I used to think of Sunday grids as a lot of work, but now it’s Saturdays.

  14. 31:17, no errors. Tough but that’s what you get on a Saturday.
    I’m not sure what all the complaining is about – Boss Fight is a real term (as Bill states in his explanation, two words, not one) and is not tops on the obscure item list in my opinion (that would be celery salt).
    Also – no love for O’Hare & Bush? That’s a great clue & answer!

  15. I never want to look dumb (it happens), but I give up. After searching the Internet, I have to ask – what in the h – – – does PPP stand for? People? Places? Proper? And how, as someone said, does 2D-9D fit in to PPPs? Thanks for any info.

    1. @ Gail
      You pretty much get the Picture Gail.
      People,Pop Culture,Proper Nouns…..
      And those actually start at 3D. 2D is well,
      On Topic….

    2. I think it’s People, Places, and Products. 3D-9D are PPPs. And to echo the sentiment of many, this, like yesterday’s, was no fun.

    3. Proper nouns of varying kinds, basically. More or less something that turns the puzzle into trivia (basically “you either know it or you don’t”). I call these things crossquiz puzzles sometimes for that reason. People tend to detest a large number of them because it 100% guarantees the use of Google in order to “solve” the puzzle.

      Or as a commenter aptly put it once, “references nobody understands, names nobody knows and arcana nobody cares about.” Welcome to solving modern crossword puzzles…

  16. One of those puzzles where you just have to keep picking away and make a few educated guesses to keep on advancing. I liked it.

  17. Too tough for me today; gave up at about 25% fill and did a check-grid with about 10 errors. Proceeded from there with about 10 more check-grids and 4 more errors to get to the finish. Got there in 45:05 so probably gave up too easily.

    Given it’s the LA Times, I expect a lot of entertainment industry stuff, even if that’s far from my best area, so I accept that. I do enjoy learning new things too, although not always the stuff that I’m seeing. I just wish I could get a foothold on some of these. In any case, I’m sticking with it, if just to keep up with the culture.

  18. All the hate is surprising me for this one. I thought it was pretty easy (13 mins, no errors), and just came here to see whether there was a theme because I couldn’t guess one. Maybe an age thing? Boss fight made total sense to me (I’m 42), but I’m guessing my parents wouldn’t know it. The WW gave me pause until I filled in the II, but otherwise, these seemed straight forward.

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